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Post by Bucketfel on Feb 24, 2011 2:44:09 GMT -5
ive been trying to create more articles on wikipedia about the early marzbow period (80's) and as i go backwards the information becomes less clear to the point of beign non existent at all.
Some have pointed out some details and stuff like that but my objective is to make the information as clear and as complete as i possibly can.
If anyone out there has any information about the releases from the 80's and also from all the other solo albums, post the information here and i will edit those articles as soon as i posibly can.
Ive hit some problems with some releases like:
1- Nil Vagina Mail Action/Live Performance Feb. 1985, is it a live album as the title implies or is it a studio release as the reissue says "Recorded at Merz-bau Studio at once"
2- Khabarovsk Materials, is it an album or maybe another name for "Live in Khabarovsk, CCCP"??. I do not see any information at all about this release
3- Live at I.C.O.N.E., no clue about this album at all.
Thanks for the help ;D
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Post by trollh on Feb 28, 2011 6:27:20 GMT -5
Well, hard questions you have, and i cant give you the right answers. 1. I think (but just i think) Nil Vagina Mail Action/Live Performance Feb. 1985 was originally something live performance and that was re-recorded or re-collaged at Marzbau studio, as Masami loves that actions in that times. 2. Khabarovsk Materials i never heard about it on this title, but would by great, i love the known materials 3. Like some other early releases, this is just a title too. My secret dream is to find a old merzcollector who have some merzcassettes in his cellar
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Post by Bucketfel on Feb 28, 2011 9:46:53 GMT -5
Well, hard questions you have, and i cant give you the right answers. 1. I think (but just i think) Nil Vagina Mail Action/Live Performance Feb. 1985 was originally something live performance and that was re-recorded or re-collaged at Marzbau studio, as Masami loves that actions in that times. 2. Khabarovsk Materials i never heard about it on this title, but would by great, i love the known materials 3. Like some other early releases, this is just a title too. My secret dream is to find a old merzcollector who have some merzcassettes in his cellar mmm, i see. Well, ill update the respective pages when i have a little time. thanks for the info
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Post by siredgarcarpenter on Feb 28, 2011 16:45:37 GMT -5
1. Nil Vagina Mail Action / Live Performance Feb. 85 seems like is a live album recorded a Merz-Bau Studio, such as Le Cuisinier, Material Action 2 NAM and Flesh Metal Orgasm.
2. Khabarovsk Materials? Well, that sounds weird for me. Meaybe this album contains all thye3n original source materials that we're used later to the Live album. I really don't know...
3. No idea about Live At I.C.O.N.E.
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Post by andypandy380 on Mar 20, 2013 5:51:14 GMT -5
I didn't quite know where to post this and it didn't seem worth starting a new thread... but I've just got a load of Merz CDs in the post, one of them being Maschinenstil... my copy is a CDR with the record label's name and address stamped on it, the listing on discogs shows a CD with swirly sort of machine parts on it. Anyone have a copy of Mashinenstil or encountered any other things like this when buying Merzbow releases?
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Post by acsenger on Mar 22, 2013 4:40:26 GMT -5
I have the original Maschinenstil CD which is a proper release with a proper cover. It sounds like yours is a CDR by the same label. It's legit but it's a cheaper version. I saw this on the label's website but I didn't know there was no cover either.
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Post by andypandy380 on Mar 22, 2013 4:54:55 GMT -5
Everything else about my copy appears to be as it should be. It's only that the disc is a CDR, I noticed that it had 'tdk' printed on the inside so thought it was suspicious. Sounds like it is a genuine release though, just seems rather odd
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Post by christabel on Mar 23, 2013 11:26:13 GMT -5
I have the original Maschinenstil CD which is a proper release with a proper cover. It sounds like yours is a CDR by the same label. It's legit but it's a cheaper version. I saw this on the label's website but I didn't know there was no cover either. Never heard of this CD-R version. This was the one I had though - www.discogs.com/release/92588Great album actually!
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Post by qweasd on Mar 26, 2013 5:04:02 GMT -5
Machinenstil is among the last 3 recordings Merzbow made before switching to computers, the others being Springharp and Blues Maggot (both of which don't specify recording dates, aside from year - quite frustrating particularly in the case of Last of Analog Session box set, for those who care about when albums were actually recorded). Machinenstil comes well over a year after disc 50 of the Merzbox and after the Aqua Necromancer and Door Opens at 8am discs, therefore putting it in a historically significant spot before the start of the computer era.
I wasn't aware of the CDr, I own an original, which is nothing too flash in terms of sleeve. It's a fine album: shame about the reuse of track 2 between Machinenstil and Springharp. Springharp is a fantastic album, the top album from the very end of this era before computers.
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Post by andypandy380 on Mar 26, 2013 16:06:30 GMT -5
Until recently I always assumed Last of Analog Sessions was just a collection of odds and ends, but definitely more interested in finding a copy once I learned it was 3 proper albums. I like the Minazo-caterpillar cover is pretty quirky. I like the way the notes on the Maschinenstil cover say "All music composed and performed by Masami Akitama"
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Post by qweasd on Mar 26, 2013 19:08:46 GMT -5
Until recently I always assumed Last of Analog Sessions was just a collection of odds and ends, but definitely more interested in finding a copy once I learned it was 3 proper albums. I like the Minazo-caterpillar cover is pretty quirky. I like the way the notes on the Maschinenstil cover say "All music composed and performed by Masami Akitama" Last of Analog is a fabulous box, one of the great releases of Merzbow material; digestable, unbelievably intense at moments (Medamaya) and also incredibly colourful (Springharp). NB. The supposed error in the Machinenstil cover is only an error via a missing 'space' between Akita and MA. It's not meant to be, as is printed, "...MASAMI AKITAMA PLAYS:NOISE ELECTRONIX ...". It's meant to read "...MASAMI AKITA MA Plays: Noise Electronix..." I've seen mention of that error pop up a couple of times... it's a very easy one to resolve upon looking a couple of times at the text. Releases often mention MA in reference to Masami Akita. They didn't misspell his name, they just forgot a space between his name and his initials.
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Post by acsenger on Mar 26, 2013 22:02:36 GMT -5
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Post by andypandy380 on Mar 27, 2013 4:14:09 GMT -5
ha yeah, that actually makes a lot of sense now I look back at it, It's only that I noticed the comment on the Maschinenstil discogs page "Dual Plover proudly claim to be the only record label in the world to ever spell Masami Akita's name wrong in the credits"
I've been wondering about Blues Maggot as well, a bit of a mystery that one...
SCSI Duck is a great album, one of the first that I bought, I do remember it having some proggy sampled bits and pieces, but I don't really know for sure. My only gripe with that album is that the first track could do with going on for another 20 minutes or so...
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Post by andypandy380 on Oct 21, 2018 3:21:45 GMT -5
I pretty much picked a random spot to post this... But anyway, I just had an email saying that a seller on Discogs has a copy of the Blues Maggots CDr for sale, which I've never seen before... It seemed so elusive that for a while many of us were doubting its very existence, but for 200 quid it could be yours
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Post by andypandy380 on Feb 25, 2020 12:11:59 GMT -5
This might seem a strange little thing, but today I picked out a random Merzbow album to listen to, one that I hadn't listened to in some time, Yurikamome: 13 Japanese Birds Part 3. It struck me that the loop in the second track sounded familiar from somewhere... and that somewhere turned out to be the track 'Porg' from the Melvins' King Buzzo EP from 1992... Might just be a huge coincidence that there are similarities between the two, but I suspect they could at least be samples of the same thing, (In Merzbow's case, a slowed down and manipulated version) does anyone know what that could be?
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