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Post by trollh on Oct 10, 2014 14:13:42 GMT -5
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Post by acsenger on Oct 18, 2014 19:53:58 GMT -5
I listened to the two tracks available for streaming, but I couldn't hear any Merzbow in them. Am I deaf?
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Post by neokorosu on Oct 19, 2014 5:28:03 GMT -5
So I must be deaf too. I wonder how the second disc "Sister Fawn" would be.
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Post by trollh on Oct 20, 2014 3:10:12 GMT -5
I have listened the complete material and it contains some backgfround noise from Merzbow (11 grindcore tracks in 23 minutes and every minute contains 1-2 seconds Merzbow like "beep-beep-beepbeepbeep" and so on).
Correct listening, but nothing special and nothing cause we like Merzbow or what we wanted to found.
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Post by trollh on Oct 20, 2014 3:15:11 GMT -5
Ahh, and I forget, two louder tracks has full Merzbow during the track with some vocals and distorted guitars.
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Post by neokorosu on Oct 20, 2014 11:25:24 GMT -5
How have you managed it to listen to the full album before its release date? Did you also listen to "Sister Fawn"? I'm interested about your opinion on this one.
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Post by trollh on Oct 23, 2014 1:36:51 GMT -5
No, I just listened the collaboration. I think Sister Fawn is not Merzbow's co-work, just a bonus CD from Full Of Hell as a bundle deal.
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Post by acsenger on Nov 6, 2014 5:44:01 GMT -5
Nothing to do with Full of Hell, but I thought I'd mention it here due to musical similarities: there's a new release by a band called Sick/Tired which has a Merzbow track (as well as a Lasse Marhaug one). You can listen to it here: sick-tired.bandcamp.com/album/dissolution-lp. The style is grindcore/hardcore. Maybe because I very rarely listen to this kind of music and have not kept up with grindcore for many years now, but I think this is just an average album (same as the Full of Hell stuff I've heard). Akita has remixed what I consider good grindcore/metal in the past: Discordance Axis, Burst, Asterisk*, Ulver. But Full of Hell and Sick/Tired? I just don't see what's special about them based on what I've heard...
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Post by andypandy380 on Nov 8, 2014 7:35:58 GMT -5
I kind of agree with you. I like some of this stuff, but there's a point where it just gets a little tiresome. What lets a lot of these bands down is the vocals which often lack a lot of personality and tend to sound much the same right across the board. I dunno if I'd get a lot of criticism for saying so, but in my experience listening to grindcore, the 'big names' are well known for a reason... Napalm Death, Pig Destroyer etc. Aside from a handful of releases, I can't really fault a whole lot of they've put out. I think it's beginning to be dragged down in a similar way to other metal subgenres in that certain fans expect there to be a formula for the perfect grind/hardcore sound. There are people who dismiss everything Napalm Death put out after FETO, just because it's 'not grindcore'... Which is ridiculous, sure those first few albums were packed full of 30 second long songs, but the band themselves must have wanted to go in other directions and explore new things, it's not something where anyone should try to keep fans happy or a case of 'selling out'... So there are a whole lot of bands, of almost every genre, where I think "well that's a perfectly executed example of what they were going for" but at the same time, it's just very safe and doesn't have that kind of spark that would convince you to listen to it more than once or twice. I ended up pre-ordering the full of hell cd, was a bit on the fence but liked some of it so figured it was worth a shot. Again it's those tedious growling vocals that are nagging me a bit.
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Post by acsenger on Nov 8, 2014 23:44:21 GMT -5
I agree that a lot of bands stick to a safe musical formula, in any kind of genre of course. Regarding grindcore (or extreme metal), I personally don't mind if the vocals don't stand out as very characteristic, but if the music is generic too, that's an issue for me. Of course, not all bands can be innovative and some are very good at playing a style that's been done before them without necessarily adding anything new, but especially with grindcore, when I hear the same hardcore riff for the 1000th time and another run of the mill 30-second song, I just can't be bothered whatsoever...
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Post by merzbow on Nov 25, 2014 15:05:44 GMT -5
I'm listening to the first disc right now and it seemed to be pretty boring but the last three tracks (High Fells, Ljudget Av Gud, Fawn Heads and Unjoy) were all great, favourite track has to be Ljudget.
Haven't heard Sister Fawn yet, hope it is better
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Post by neokorosu on Nov 26, 2014 13:30:44 GMT -5
I don't want to be a spoilsport, but I think it would be better, if you would change your name.
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Post by andypandy380 on Nov 26, 2014 15:48:11 GMT -5
I've got some mixed feelings about it, agree that those last few tracks are the best, the final one is perhaps the most intense/energetic with the most variety... the slower moments beforehand with the horn parts and the chanted vocal style are kinda nice too. But for the most part, I dunno, it's a bit like the whole thing is trying too hard to be the most intense grindcore album ever but in doing so it just feels like a blurry mixed bag that falls a bit flat. That might be too harsh a review, I don't hate it, but there are more enjoyable and original hardcore/grindcore/noise albums out there for sure. Not a lot of Merzbow on the first disc, at all. The second one has some more noticeable Merzbow moments, but I think for the most part that much of the noise is produced by the Full Of Hell guys too.
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